Naruto is terrible., Mar 21, 2014 21:32:42 GMT -5
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Post by Kurome on Mar 21, 2014 21:32:42 GMT -5
I honestly don't understand the non-reputable hate for Naruto. Why hate something you've followed for so long? Honestly... The hate for it is so unwarranted. It's even worse when you say you are only following because of Sasuke. A laughable reason actually.
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  #1, Mar 21, 2014 22:00:29 GMT -5
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Post by Zexion on Mar 21, 2014 22:00:29 GMT -5
Yess trans U_U Sasuke is the worst
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  #2, Mar 21, 2014 22:20:34 GMT -5
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Post by Tyler on Mar 21, 2014 22:20:34 GMT -5
I honestly don't understand the non-reputable hate for Naruto. Why hate something you've followed for so long? Honestly... The hate for it is so unwarranted. It's even worse when you say you are only following because of Sasuke. A laughable reason actually. You answered your own question. The dislike stems exactly from that fact, we've followed it for so long. I've spent a shitload of time on the series, watching the episodes, reading the manga, and posting on the forums, and for that exact reasons, it sucks to see a series that used to be soo fucking good [The Pein arc was orgasmic] go down the same shitty path that so many other Shonen mangas have strolled down, by having the main character overcome every. Fucking. Single. Obstacle through ''The power of friendship''.
Kishi is extremely talented when it comes to some aspects of writing, mainly when it comes to the characters themselves. It's easy to connect with his characters, their personalities and traits differ greatly from one another, and the fact that each character has so many things that the readers can relate to makes it hard not to fall in love with at least a few of them. But then Kishi's lack of originality comes into play, which became oh so apparent just recently when he actually had the K11 break through Obito's attack, when by all logic their attempt should have been stopped with ease. Kishi creates great characters, and then always managed to ruin them, be it either by having them face their death early on through non-sensible fights covered in plot [Kakuzu being fooled by a Bunshin feint being an example], or by actually having the so called soulless villains changing their world views as a whole due to the speeches of a mere teenager. [Nagato, Sasori, etc]
It's easy to hate the series when stuff like this keeps popping up. Of course, it has it's bright points, just last week we got quite a good chapter, which allowed us to get a glimpse into the past of a main character while at the same time showing us awesome fight scenes, that's pro writing. But on the other hand, examples of this kind of great writing being completely ruined by nonsensical, typical Shonen Manga writing have become far too common, which makes it quite easy to develop a sense of dislike towards the series. Frankly, I don't think it's fair to refer to this hate as non-reputable. The series does have it light points, and it's because of those points that we keep on watching/reading it. [For example, for some people these points would be Sasuke] However, when we look at the picture as a whole, the entertaining parts of the series seem to be greatly outmatched by the nonsensical parts of the series, or at least, that's the way I see it. Just my two cents, really.
TL;DR: Shortly put, the series has it's great points, but the bad points simply outweigh these good parts. In my opinion.
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  #3, Mar 21, 2014 22:27:47 GMT -5
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Post by Zexion on Mar 21, 2014 22:27:47 GMT -5
Akatsuki U_U Solo all
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  #4, Mar 21, 2014 22:48:41 GMT -5
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Post by Sky on Mar 21, 2014 22:48:41 GMT -5
1.) The villains don't change from a "speech from a mere teenager." If Naruto walked up to Pein saying what he said in canon he would've gotten smacked. The only reason he didn't was because he defeated Pein in an extended battle, thus earning his respect.
-Same goes for Obito and Sasori. Hell, Naruto and Obito battled for 75+ chapters before one of them gave way, watering it down and saying a "speech," changed Obito is nonsensical.
2.) The power of friendship point is so contradictory, because you just said the main character overcomes everything. Makes absolutely no sense. Along with the fact that the main character has been out of commission for several chapters and has had to be saved by his former enemy of all people.
3.) The K11 didn't break through Obito's attack, Naruto and Sasuke's PS/Kyuubi fusion did. All the K11 did was carry Naruto's Senjutsu enhanced Rasengans, which is in fact the Juubi Jinchuriki's weakness.
4.) Kakuzu getting fooled by a Bunshin feint was explained thoroughly as it went down, and Naruto is known for fooling people more experienced than him. (Ex. Zabuza and Pein)
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  #5, Mar 21, 2014 22:54:12 GMT -5
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Post by Zexion on Mar 21, 2014 22:54:12 GMT -5
No it wasn't Sky Kakuzu eyes were fixed firmly on all the clones and the original, there is literally no way Naruto managed to get behind him without him noticing, Kakuzu isn't missing a giant orange jumpsuit run by his vision XD Combine that with the fact that he still had masks that had been shown to fire backwards which could of KO'd him regardless and sums it all up to plot
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  #6, Mar 21, 2014 23:01:01 GMT -5
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Post by Sky on Mar 21, 2014 23:01:01 GMT -5
What do you mean there's no way Naruto could've gotten behind him? Kakuzu literally bypassed three Naruto "clones", exposing his back to them, so he could defeat the jutsu. It was clearly shown that he got too caught up in the jutsu, thereby losing focus on Naruto. FRS was noted to carry an extremely large amount of chakra, Pein fell for this too, I don't know why it's such a big deal.
And FRS > Kakuzu's masks. :l
Anyway, the Kakuzu portion of my post isn't even a big deal. .-.
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  #7, Mar 21, 2014 23:02:39 GMT -5
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Post by Zexion on Mar 21, 2014 23:02:39 GMT -5
Yes, but how exactly did Naruto get in the front is what i meant to say, he never even left his line of view, and your point? The masks would roast Naruto regardless of if he's holding it or not
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  #8, Mar 21, 2014 23:08:07 GMT -5
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Post by Sky on Mar 21, 2014 23:08:07 GMT -5
The masks were facing forward just as Kakuzu was. They couldn't have fired backwards.
And Naruto got in front because Kakuzu was too fixated on FRS, and forgot to check which Naruto was a clone and which wasn't. If that's plot has then so be it. :l
It's always dumb when people use this moment to discredit Kakuzu though, that could have happened to anyone. Anyways I'm going to bed, later. .-.
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  #9, Mar 22, 2014 3:37:03 GMT -5
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Post by Syura on Mar 22, 2014 3:37:03 GMT -5
I honestly don't understand the non-reputable hate for Naruto. Why hate something you've followed for so long? Honestly... The hate for it is so unwarranted. It's even worse when you say you are only following because of Sasuke. A laughable reason actually. No. The reason is far from laughable. The plot is bad and basically all of the characters irritate me at this point. I follow it because of Sasuke. You want to know why? Because even though Kishi's story is crap, he did a great job at writting Sasuke's character. He is definitely my favorite anime character so yes, I'm going to keep on reading the manga to see his story completed. Not because of the whole plot or the other characters.
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  #10, Mar 22, 2014 6:07:44 GMT -5
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Post by Tyler on Mar 22, 2014 6:07:44 GMT -5
1.) The villains don't change from a "speech from a mere teenager." If Naruto walked up to Pein saying what he said in canon he would've gotten smacked. The only reason he didn't was because he defeated Pein in an extended battle, thus earning his respect. -Same goes for Obito and Sasori. Hell, Naruto and Obito battled for 75+ chapters before one of them gave way, watering it down and saying a "speech," changed Obito is nonsensical. 2.) The power of friendship point is so contradictory, because you just said the main character overcomes everything. Makes absolutely no sense. Along with the fact that the main character has been out of commission for several chapters and has had to be saved by his former enemy of all people. 3.) The K11 didn't break through Obito's attack, Naruto and Sasuke's PS/Kyuubi fusion did. All the K11 did was carry Naruto's Senjutsu enhanced Rasengans, which is in fact the Juubi Jinchuriki's weakness. 4.) Kakuzu getting fooled by a Bunshin feint was explained thoroughly as it went down, and Naruto is known for fooling people more experienced than him. (Ex. Zabuza and Pein) 1. Yeah..Not really. Naruto's fight with Pein [Which was disgustingly inaccurate, I may add] didn't really grant him any respect at all, in fact, Nagato kept on insulting Naruto's views on how peace should be achieved long after that, up until the point where Naruto started using actual quotes from Nagato, to change Nagato's views. As for Sasori, don't even go there. His views on the world were even more poisoned than Nagato's, he was prepared to go as far as skinning his own grandmother just because he felt she'd be a nice addition to his collection. And then he decides, seemingly out of the blue just to not avoid an incoming attack, for no real apparent reason.
2. Wut? I said that the main character overcomes everything through the power of friendship? How on earth does bringing up the power of friendship contradict that point? Seriously, I'm interested in knowing how the hell you managed to reach that conclusion..?
3. Huh? My sole point was that yet again, ''The power of friendship'' managed to prevail, even when faced against a character who's arguably the strongest character yet to be showcased in the manga, aside from Madara and the Sage. The page itself even says so, ''The bond with one's friends was the one to win!!'' Do you disagree?
4. Don't even. Kakuzu was 91 years old, probably the oldest shinobi in the series, and the most experienced. He was powerful enough for his village to send him face to face against Hashirama, and while he did indeed lose the fight, the sole fact that he survived it is a testament of his strength. Kakuzu's experience tops pretty much every other character in the Manga, which can be seen in his immensely versatile fighting style which allowed him to take on a group of people including Hatake Kakashi with relative ease, and then, along comes Naruto. Kakuzu had already seen Naruto's talent when it came to the Kage Bunshin, and even so, he ignored the Kage Bunshin completely. No ''Perhaps I should just quickly jam the Bunshin, it'd probably be for the best just to get rid of them. After all, a single injury will suffice in popping them'', or ''Perhaps I shouldn't completely turn my fucking back on the three clones which could then freely attack me, seeing as they possess the exact same poser as the original'', no. The immensely intelligent shinobi with experience spanning decades decides that the best approach would be to completely ignore the Bunshin, and leave his back completely open to them. Don't even try to justify that move, I honestly don't think it's too far fetched to say that it's among the most retarded moves in the manga as a whole [And that's saying a lot], and to make it worse, it came from someone like Kakuzu. A ninja like him would have known better. Utilizing the long range form to pierce the clones from a distance would have been the easiest thing in the world, and yet, nothing of the sort came to Kakuzu's mind. Trying to argue against this serves no purpose, deep down you yourself know that Kakuzu's death was ridiculous. Naruto's habit of using clones to trick his opponents is close to irrelevant here, a ninja like Kakuzu should by all logic not have had any trouble at all in countering. But instead, he became a fodder when faced against the main character, and had his own character as a whole reduced to nothing more than an illustration of Naruto's new technique.
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  #11, Mar 22, 2014 7:40:13 GMT -5
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Post by Syura on Mar 22, 2014 7:40:13 GMT -5
The time when Naruto was good died when the Akatsuki died. It all went downhill after the Pein arc.
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  #12, Mar 22, 2014 10:43:51 GMT -5
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Post by Zexion on Mar 22, 2014 10:43:51 GMT -5
Lml, Kakuzu's masks can change their position easily, and my point is he could clearly tell which one was the original, theres not way any smart shinobi can see around it
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  #13, Mar 22, 2014 14:45:10 GMT -5
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Post by Wavey on Mar 22, 2014 14:45:10 GMT -5
So basically you guys enjoy seeing your favorite characters ruined. Interesting.. That's how it goes.
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  #14, Mar 22, 2014 14:52:36 GMT -5
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Post by Naruto on Mar 22, 2014 14:52:36 GMT -5
What sky said. I'm bracing myself lmao
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  #15, Mar 22, 2014 14:52:50 GMT -5
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Post by Zexion on Mar 22, 2014 14:52:50 GMT -5
Loving the Kakuzu love Six Paths my man U_U
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  #16, Mar 22, 2014 14:54:30 GMT -5
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Post by Tyler on Mar 22, 2014 14:54:30 GMT -5
Can't help but love that sum' bitch. u_u
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  #17, Mar 22, 2014 15:14:35 GMT -5
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Post by Tatsumi on Mar 22, 2014 15:14:35 GMT -5
Kishimoto writing skills are superb
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  #18, Mar 22, 2014 16:17:31 GMT -5
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Post by Teflon. on Mar 22, 2014 16:17:31 GMT -5
So the majority of people here hate the Naruto series but are Sasuke fanboys..? Zexion, don't EVER ask me for anymore favors.
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  #19, Mar 22, 2014 16:22:52 GMT -5
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Post by Zexion on Mar 22, 2014 16:22:52 GMT -5
Lmao XD We're here to be the rebels my man
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  #20, Mar 22, 2014 16:25:06 GMT -5
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Post by Naruto on Mar 22, 2014 16:25:06 GMT -5
You elitists! I am the only Naruto fan here , I guess. xD
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  #21, Mar 22, 2014 16:27:42 GMT -5
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Post by Zexion on Mar 22, 2014 16:27:42 GMT -5
I love Naruto
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  #22, Mar 22, 2014 16:49:38 GMT -5
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Post by Teflon. on Mar 22, 2014 16:49:38 GMT -5
Same. Minus Sasuke.
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  #23, Mar 22, 2014 19:09:46 GMT -5
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Post by Syura on Mar 22, 2014 19:09:46 GMT -5
You seem to not understand the difference between a fan and a ''fanboy''.
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  #24, Mar 22, 2014 21:30:35 GMT -5
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Post by Zexion on Mar 22, 2014 21:30:35 GMT -5
Lmfao FT XD XD Exactly the same
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